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So... can we borrow your incineretors, please?

 
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MessaggioInviato: 12 Mar 2008 - 18:01    Oggetto: So... can we borrow your incineretors, please? Rispondi citando

Everybody in the World has seen the piles of garbage that put under siege the city of Napoli. But not everyone has realized how much more garbage is stockpiled in the public dumps of Campania. There are too few incinerators in Campania to get rid of this colossal mass of garbage and turn it to dust or fuel. The locals have no idea where to put it and the situation can only worsen.

So far much of this trash was sent to Germany to be incinerated (and of course Germans don't do that for free). Switzerland and Israel appear to have opened negotiations with Italy to take their slice of neapolitan garbage too. But every citizen of these Countries should be informed that this stockpiled trash is not conform to environmental and safety standards. Most of the packed and compressed waste is not suitable to be burned as refuse-derived fuel. Who knows what is inside: industrial waste, radiological and medical samples, toxic plastics, heavy metals, and any other sort of contaminated material or material that should not be burned, but separated from the rest. It is not just municipal solid waste we are talking of. And only God knows what's inside the illegal dumps that probably outnumber the legal ones in Campania. Illegal dumps are run by local mafia, often with the consent of corrupt politicians or criminal entrepreneurs. Every kind of poison was buried in these illegal dumps coming from every part of Italy and possibly even from abroad.

These fields of trash cover the area of several football stadiums (over 6 square km) and are over 10 meters high.

After the Pyramids of Giza and the Great Wall of China also Italy has now a man-built artifact visible from space.

You can't see them in the pictures, but there are a lot of stray dogs and seagulls feasting in this colossal rubbish monument. The surrounding territory, which is composed by several cultivated fields, is very polluted and yet people still grow vegetables there. Those small white things with wheels on their bottom are trucks. That should give you an idea. And no, if you still can't believe this, it is not a scale model. It's 1:1.














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MessaggioInviato: 25 Mar 2008 - 22:19    Oggetto: Rispondi citando

How about this....

http://www.startech.net/

Simple process that creates some glass, hydrogen, and electricity using plasma and with all the trash here its a machine that would get some use! How freaking hard is this? Oh, by the way it doesnt pollute like all the morons just burning trash in their yards!

Lobby the Government to buy some of this technology. Japan did. They love it!
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MessaggioInviato: 25 Mar 2008 - 22:45    Oggetto: Rispondi citando

Angry Jasen ha scritto:
How about this....

http://www.startech.net/


We have to ask the permission of Camorra.
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MessaggioInviato: 25 Mar 2008 - 22:46    Oggetto: Rispondi citando

I hate the fact that you said that. If i could, I would invest every ounce of energy and money I had to get a few of those machines here to take trash.

I would start my own company to pick up trash, process it, and sell it back as energy Smile
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MessaggioInviato: 25 Mar 2008 - 22:52    Oggetto: Rispondi citando

Do u really want help us?
OK, talk to Bush, say him Bin Laden is here, in Forcella quarter.
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MessaggioInviato: 26 Mar 2008 - 8:43    Oggetto: Rispondi citando

Angry Jasen ha scritto:
I hate the fact that you said that. If i could, I would invest every ounce of energy and money I had to get a few of those machines here to take trash.

I would start my own company to pick up trash, process it, and sell it back as energy Smile

that is something you could probably do in the States or in most of the 'civilized' world, but not in Naples. As Hidalgo said, firstly, you should really ask the permission of the camorra, and, if you obtain it, then it would not be probably convenient anymore to build up the company as the camorra would take a good percentage of your earnings... as you might have seen yourself, this is possible as the gouvernment (local and national) does not care at all of what happens in our land.
I must agree again with Hidalgo, and I think that the best option to solve the problems in Naples (not only the garbage problems, I mean) is to tell Mister Bush that Bin Laden is in Forcella...
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MessaggioInviato: 26 Mar 2008 - 13:06    Oggetto: Rispondi citando

Angry Jasen ha scritto:
I hate the fact that you said that. If i could, I would invest every ounce of energy and money I had to get a few of those machines here to take trash.

I would start my own company to pick up trash, process it, and sell it back as energy Smile



If Camorra wasn't here probably we wouldn't have the illegal dumps either.

The idea of investing into the garbage business in an area which is drowning in its waste is brilliant and obvious at the same time. To quote a biologist friend of mine "Want to become rich? Toss yourself into the garbage!" (it's a direct translation from Italian which probably is not as funny). The fact is that investing in an area that is economically dominated by an illegal economy and a corrupt government is not easy. Not mentioning all the bureaucracy we have in Italy (not a mistery that our Country does not attact many foreign investors as other EU countries do).

To have a vague idea of what we are dealing with, I'd suggest you to read Saviano's book, since it is translated into English, but I guess you already did.
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MessaggioInviato: 26 Mar 2008 - 17:19    Oggetto: Rispondi citando

I am reading it now. It just came in the mail Smile

The folks in Sicily had the same problems, and they rose up against them! It became more dangerous to pay the mafia than to be against it.

What needs to happen is simple, TAKE A STAND!
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MessaggioInviato: 26 Mar 2008 - 18:10    Oggetto: Rispondi citando

It's really quite something when people in Liverpool get to hear about the troubles in Napoli e Campania on a daily basis in their small local newspapers. Most local people didn't even know where Naples was until these latest 'advertisements' appeared to suggest if you see Naples now you could die. If the rubbish doesn't bury you alive.. the mozzarella might make you glow in the dark!
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MessaggioInviato: 26 Mar 2008 - 22:17    Oggetto: Rispondi citando

Aliena ha scritto:
It's really quite something when people in Liverpool get to hear about the troubles in Napoli e Campania on a daily basis in their small local newspapers. Most local people didn't even know where Naples was until these latest 'advertisements' appeared to suggest if you see Naples now you could die. If the rubbish doesn't bury you alive.. the mozzarella might make you glow in the dark!


Do you live in Liverpool?
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MessaggioInviato: 26 Mar 2008 - 23:11    Oggetto: Rispondi citando

I live less than 10 minutes from Liverpool. Have you been here? It's very similar to Naples.. except without the rubbish and the dirt and the sunshine. Wink
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MessaggioInviato: 26 Mar 2008 - 23:22    Oggetto: Rispondi citando

Aliena ha scritto:
I live less than 10 minutes from Liverpool. Have you been here? It's very similar to Naples.. except without the rubbish and the dirt and the sunshine. Wink


Gotham City without Batman and Joker as Mayor is similar to Naples.
Rio de Janeiro, do you know? Well, the cum of dead mouses in the sewers of Rio's most infamous favelas is similar to Naples.

But these are only vague ideas of reality.
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